Christopher: Anonymous3, don't you mean 'as real to life as you can get while still being drawn' children.
Personally, I think that Simon is being a little bit of a 'fag' over this. You got to realize that if something is posted ANYWHERE on the internet, it will be reposted on other sites sooner or later.
imaajfpstnfo: anon7: I choose not to be insulted by this remark because of it's utter stupidity. I replied however, because I worked all week for this homage to simon, why would I even draw a pic for him if I chose to steal his art for doing so. Show me the images I supposedly took the art from.
imaajfpstnfo: also, Christopher, You're right, I think the worst thing an artist could do is to deprive people of his art and I can't respect Simon's choice, but he is a very good artist and the site will miss him.
Simon hasn't quit. But he's posting his porn drawings only to a restricted area of Pixiv that only his friends can access. I asked him why, and he pretty much lays it at the feet of Paheal and some persistent users.
I'm not going to argue with him, because I'm on that friend list. And he's been posting completely uncensored images to it.
anon001979: He didn't want to go into detail, but basically a few people kept pestering him to post uncensored images, and images were tagged to the wrong artist, and admins were insulting him instead of fixing the problem. I'm only assuming he is talking about Paheal, because a few weeks ago his gallery here was merged with Conoghi's by some idiot. That's why I started uploading his and Conoghi's images myself, so they can be tagged and sourced properly. But someone still fucked up the tags, and even deleted an original image while keeping a de-censored one. (I thought this was against Paheal policy.)
I can understand why this kind of shit would bother him. The stupidity of a few has ruined it for all.
anon001979: ^Christopher
>You got to realize that if something is posted ANYWHERE on the internet, it will be reposted on other sites sooner or later.
The problem wasn't that the images were reposted, he told me he didn't mind that. Also, he's still posting porn, they're only viewable if he friends you on Pixiv. So, unless someone decides to leak them, Paheal is SOL. (I'm not going to, I don't want to piss him off.)
If some fag here is annoying him more than he can tolerate, it's completely his right to cut us off. Sad as it may be. Most of these Japanese artists post all this stuff on the net, completely free. They don't have to deal with us if they don't want to.
I'm also curious what the admins said to him in chat. Didn't you guys even try to convince him to change his mind?
Getter_the_Great: I don't hate him, I just didn't (and still don't) see any reason to convince him not to. He doesn't like having his crap up here, and it doesn't really benefit the site to waste the bandwidth on his stuff, so it's a win-win really.
biggerstaff: I will never understand this shit. I get that work sold for profit is DNP (not like people won't get it free anyway if they want it), and I get if you want to stop focusing on porn and do something serious (although why you should be ashamed is beyond me), but if someone wants to post your FREE pron somewhere, and it's somewhere you could just as easily ignore, why the fuck get all bent out of shape about it?
anon001979: >and it's somewhere you could just as easily ignore
That's the problem, I don't think it's something he could easily ignore. He and Conoghi seem to be real life friends, or at least very close on Pixiv. Then, when he asks for assistance from Paheal to fix the problem, you got people like Getter here telling him whatever bullshit he told him. I guess it's not enough that idiotic users drive artists away, admins are doing it too.
We had 6 pages of his stuff. He must have known they were being posted a long time.
Decanter: anon001979: I'll try to address your points.
conoghi and simon have very similar art styles. Some of our users apparently look at the images, and say "hey, that looks like conoghi" because they haven't heard of simon and are pretty sure it's one artist using two handles, something we try to avoid in our tags.
If you wanted the images of those two people tagged properly despite our users' errors, you could have alerted the admins to the problem, and we could apply tag locks when we had the right tags on. It's even possible that some admin - not Getter, obviously, but some other admin - might have taken on the responsibility of posting all of simon's and conoghi's stuff and locking the tags immediately.
As for that image that was deleted, Paheal policy is to keep the best version of an image. Usually the decensoring work is done by some other artist, and therefore is counted as an alternate version rather than a better version. But when the decensored image is what the artist made themselves, and is what the image looked like before the black bar was added, then in that special case there is no redeeming quality to the censored version that means we should keep it alongside the uncensored as an alternate version.
I don't really understand why he shouldn't post the uncensored images. It would solve the problem of people pestering him. I understand why he doesn't post them on Pixiv, but Paheal isn't subject to Japan's... eccentric laws.
Great. But I'm not the one who needs to hear this explanation.
I can only hope that you handle artist relations from now on, instead of someone who would let his personal taste interfere with the stated goal of this site. The only reason I come to Paheal is the fact that it isn't 90% anime like the others. And I'm surely not the only person holding this opinion. That alone should make these images valuable.
>Paheal policy is to keep the best version of an image.
I agree with that policy. I just think it was misapplied here. I highly doubt the uncensored image was posted by Conoghi. No offense to the decensor artist, it was a good job. It just wasn't the original, so deleting the censored version goes against my archivist instincts. It also prevents other decensor artists from having the original to work with.
>I don't really understand why he shouldn't post the uncensored images.
And how many Japanese artists post to Paheal?
I don't understand it either, but it's not for me to understand. Let's face it, collectively the Japanese do it better than anyone else. And ones that draw r34 of Western cartoons are even more rare. We're beggars, not choosers.
Krawczyk: Payne: Dun care, still got Mel, Incog, .PEN., Asthexy, and imaa!
The best artists we seem to lose for RL law, especially gunssmoke, hence my vitriolic anti-americanism as it is most definitely a puritan strain pushing these sex-hatin lawls across the planet. (I know there's some anti-sex feminists but at least they have a counter within their own batshit movement, the christfuckers either have none or have shamed them out of any position of influence) And I guess maybe I should take up anti-canadianism as well since that's where they resided. Seems those crazy cannucks don't have anything resembling the first amendment to try and shield themselves from the torches and pitchforks mob since that can lead to arrests there. ¬_¬
(Everyone knows brickbat mobs are superiour! And moar intelligent! And paid better!)
also I just realised how 3-month pregnant Brandy and Kitty look. Imaa are you sending Simon away with an unexpected 'gift'? <_<
Krawczyk: also, FYI anyone wondering about the nezumi/.pen. thing there is another non-porn artist with the name nezumi, but in the event they ever cross over I'd rather avoid the confusion prematurely. Also there's a character named that as well. Plus pen is just the more (in)famous of the two.
Krawczyk: you know come to think of it the grand irony is that anonrtsomething WAS uncensoring...I guess some fags just ain' got no patience for anything. Bet they're all underageb&
jubilation_t_cornpone: I was responsible for some of the mistagging. But as someone else pointed out, the two artists look a lot alike. I'm sorry to see them go, as I liked the pics, but if it's going to cause this kind of hassle, so be it.
anon001979: ^
As far as I know, only Simon requested to be added to DNP and stopped posting adult stuff publicly to his Pixiv. Conoghi is still posting, and I will be uploading them and tagging them properly, including the source. There would be no excuse to fucking them up when anyone can verify the source.
Simon posted this notice on his Pixiv.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=23510188
I don't know if he means that his adult images will become available again once you guys fix the tagging problem, or add him to the DNP list.
Anonymous11: THE LINE UP, STARTING FROM THE FAR LEFT [Trixie tang, vikki, tootie, frankie harrington, kim possible, candice flynn, isabella sheperro, ami, yumi, brandy harrington,agent catswell. idk who that is with the purple hair, but that on the end is the sister from kick buttouskie
Getter_the_Great: >you got people like Getter here telling him whatever bullshit he told him.
I told him if he wanted his stuff as DNP, that was fine. What, did you want me to tell him "NO PLEASE WE NEEDS YOUR ART OR OUR SITE WILL ASPLODE!!1!1!" or something? It's one artist, and his stuff isn't even that helpful to the site's purpose, so if he wants to be on the DNP list, that's his prerogative.
anon001979: Alright, I'm posting this here because I don't know where else to post it, but one of your mods just banned 4 conoghi pictures I uploaded. How about you reverse it? Conoghi is not on the DNP list, and I posted the source link to the pictures that clearly showed who the artist was. How could you guys make the same mistake after we had this huge fucking discussion about this? No wonder simon doesn't want to deal with you.
Anonymous23: We need to make this a featured image ASAP. Since Wiaboo have updated the site rules.
1.5. Do not post erotic/pornographic toddlerkon (drawn images of toddlers), lolicon/shotacon or realistic 3d renderings of underage characters where the character depicted is clearly pre-pubescent. We consider any character that appears pre-pubescent or excessively underaged, even just in terms of body proportions, to violate this rule. Non-human drawings are exempt.
tyciol: I thought this was something new inspired by Tewi taking over /loli/ and banning western art when I saw it at https://8ch.net/loli/res/81288.html#81926 but now I'm wondering what happened in 2011 to cause it.
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Nice pic imaajfpstnfo.
The delicious lolis, however, are welcome to stay.
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Personally, I think that Simon is being a little bit of a 'fag' over this. You got to realize that if something is posted ANYWHERE on the internet, it will be reposted on other sites sooner or later.
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looks like a terrible eldritch abomination rip-off of simon/conoghi's art style.
you just pasted new hands and heads on his body art.
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Simon hasn't quit. But he's posting his porn drawings only to a restricted area of Pixiv that only his friends can access. I asked him why, and he pretty much lays it at the feet of Paheal and some persistent users.
I'm not going to argue with him, because I'm on that friend list. And he's been posting completely uncensored images to it.
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I can understand why this kind of shit would bother him. The stupidity of a few has ruined it for all.
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>You got to realize that if something is posted ANYWHERE on the internet, it will be reposted on other sites sooner or later.
The problem wasn't that the images were reposted, he told me he didn't mind that. Also, he's still posting porn, they're only viewable if he friends you on Pixiv. So, unless someone decides to leak them, Paheal is SOL. (I'm not going to, I don't want to piss him off.)
If some fag here is annoying him more than he can tolerate, it's completely his right to cut us off. Sad as it may be. Most of these Japanese artists post all this stuff on the net, completely free. They don't have to deal with us if they don't want to.
I'm also curious what the admins said to him in chat. Didn't you guys even try to convince him to change his mind?
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Nice pic. +1
That settles it. There's nothing anyone can do when the faggotry is at the admin level, I guess.
That's the problem, I don't think it's something he could easily ignore. He and Conoghi seem to be real life friends, or at least very close on Pixiv. Then, when he asks for assistance from Paheal to fix the problem, you got people like Getter here telling him whatever bullshit he told him. I guess it's not enough that idiotic users drive artists away, admins are doing it too.
We had 6 pages of his stuff. He must have known they were being posted a long time.
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"KILL ALL THE NARUTO ARTISTS!!!"
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I'll let ya'll have fun guessing the culprit. ;33c
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conoghi and simon have very similar art styles. Some of our users apparently look at the images, and say "hey, that looks like conoghi" because they haven't heard of simon and are pretty sure it's one artist using two handles, something we try to avoid in our tags.
If you wanted the images of those two people tagged properly despite our users' errors, you could have alerted the admins to the problem, and we could apply tag locks when we had the right tags on. It's even possible that some admin - not Getter, obviously, but some other admin - might have taken on the responsibility of posting all of simon's and conoghi's stuff and locking the tags immediately.
As for that image that was deleted, Paheal policy is to keep the best version of an image. Usually the decensoring work is done by some other artist, and therefore is counted as an alternate version rather than a better version. But when the decensored image is what the artist made themselves, and is what the image looked like before the black bar was added, then in that special case there is no redeeming quality to the censored version that means we should keep it alongside the uncensored as an alternate version.
I don't really understand why he shouldn't post the uncensored images. It would solve the problem of people pestering him. I understand why he doesn't post them on Pixiv, but Paheal isn't subject to Japan's... eccentric laws.
You internet 'heroes' really are ruining this for everyone.
Great. But I'm not the one who needs to hear this explanation.
I can only hope that you handle artist relations from now on, instead of someone who would let his personal taste interfere with the stated goal of this site. The only reason I come to Paheal is the fact that it isn't 90% anime like the others. And I'm surely not the only person holding this opinion. That alone should make these images valuable.
>Paheal policy is to keep the best version of an image.
I agree with that policy. I just think it was misapplied here. I highly doubt the uncensored image was posted by Conoghi. No offense to the decensor artist, it was a good job. It just wasn't the original, so deleting the censored version goes against my archivist instincts. It also prevents other decensor artists from having the original to work with.
>I don't really understand why he shouldn't post the uncensored images.
And how many Japanese artists post to Paheal?
I don't understand it either, but it's not for me to understand. Let's face it, collectively the Japanese do it better than anyone else. And ones that draw r34 of Western cartoons are even more rare. We're beggars, not choosers.
Sorry for highjacking your image discussion, imaajfpstnfo. +1
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The best artists we seem to lose for RL law, especially gunssmoke, hence my vitriolic anti-americanism as it is most definitely a puritan strain pushing these sex-hatin lawls across the planet. (I know there's some anti-sex feminists but at least they have a counter within their own batshit movement, the christfuckers either have none or have shamed them out of any position of influence) And I guess maybe I should take up anti-canadianism as well since that's where they resided. Seems those crazy cannucks don't have anything resembling the first amendment to try and shield themselves from the torches and pitchforks mob since that can lead to arrests there. ¬_¬
(Everyone knows brickbat mobs are superiour! And moar intelligent! And paid better!)
also I just realised how 3-month pregnant Brandy and Kitty look. Imaa are you sending Simon away with an unexpected 'gift'? <_<
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As far as I know, only Simon requested to be added to DNP and stopped posting adult stuff publicly to his Pixiv. Conoghi is still posting, and I will be uploading them and tagging them properly, including the source. There would be no excuse to fucking them up when anyone can verify the source.
Simon posted this notice on his Pixiv.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=23510188
I don't know if he means that his adult images will become available again once you guys fix the tagging problem, or add him to the DNP list.
I told him if he wanted his stuff as DNP, that was fine. What, did you want me to tell him "NO PLEASE WE NEEDS YOUR ART OR OUR SITE WILL ASPLODE!!1!1!" or something? It's one artist, and his stuff isn't even that helpful to the site's purpose, so if he wants to be on the DNP list, that's his prerogative.
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natch
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Definitely one of your best pictures, imaajfpstnfo!
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Come over here and get something to eat!
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